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非对称半桥转换器

非对称半桥转换器
非对称半桥转换器, asymmetrical half-bridge DC to DC converter, 但是资料缺乏,不知道大家能否谈谈,相关的工程师可以交个朋友.
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2004-03-05 23:00
Good idea
good idea, as I know, the theory is simply, and easy to understand, and can improve efficiency. but the problem is how to prevent the shoot-through, how to control the dead time, but don't use the professional driver IC to cost down and can be enter into mass production, and how to select the power switch and design the transformer to control the resonant cycle is a important consideration. Need to study carefully.
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flyfox
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2004-03-06 08:55
@arthur.deng
Goodideagoodidea,asIknow,thetheoryissimply,andeasytounderstand,andcanimproveefficiency.buttheproblemishowtopreventtheshoot-through,howtocontrolthedeadtime,butdon'tusetheprofessionaldriverICtocostdownandcanbeenterintomassproduction,andhowtoselectthepowerswitchanddesignthetransformertocontroltheresonantcycleisaimportantconsideration.Needtostudycarefully.
come on
I know little about it, and i want to know more about it, but i have not related documents, why not paste some schematic to explain it in detail, and we can give our own opinion, i think it is a better way to discuss and study.
Longing for your schematic and related documents. thanks.
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LV.1
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2004-03-06 10:22
非对称半桥拓扑
各位好:看大家对非对称半桥有研究,我也来看看,前期作过一些非对称半桥AC/DC,感觉该拓扑优势不大,不知兰波兄是否要作项目还是技术研究,希望邦到你.
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兰波
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2004-03-06 10:49
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非对称半桥拓扑各位好:看大家对非对称半桥有研究,我也来看看,前期作过一些非对称半桥AC/DC,感觉该拓扑优势不大,不知兰波兄是否要作项目还是技术研究,希望邦到你.
谢谢.yock.
我是受朋友之拖,希望能给相关朋友发起个话题.集中讨论一下.
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2004-03-06 13:43
@兰波
谢谢.yock.我是受朋友之拖,希望能给相关朋友发起个话题.集中讨论一下.
讨论过好多次了
看delta公司的一篇文章
虽然不是专门讲AHB,但是比较了各种拓扑在小功率场合的优缺点
1078551788.pdf
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mypower
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2004-03-06 17:31
hao
真是个好专题,我也想听听这方面的高见
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mypower
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2004-03-06 17:34
@mypower
hao真是个好专题,我也想听听这方面的高见
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~{#?~}
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szrg
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2004-03-08 08:12
@arthur.deng
Goodideagoodidea,asIknow,thetheoryissimply,andeasytounderstand,andcanimproveefficiency.buttheproblemishowtopreventtheshoot-through,howtocontrolthedeadtime,butdon'tusetheprofessionaldriverICtocostdownandcanbeenterintomassproduction,andhowtoselectthepowerswitchanddesignthetransformertocontroltheresonantcycleisaimportantconsideration.Needtostudycarefully.
shoot-through
我实在是查不到该词语shoot-through的汉语意思,特请指教?感谢!
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arthur.deng
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2004-03-08 12:40
@szrg
shoot-through我实在是查不到该词语shoot-through的汉语意思,特请指教?感谢!
shoot-through
It is means that the two MOS is turn on at the same time.
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arthur.deng
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2004-03-08 12:46
@sometimes
讨论过好多次了看delta公司的一篇文章虽然不是专门讲AHB,但是比较了各种拓扑在小功率场合的优缺点1078551788.pdf
thanks a lot
Thanks, I read this paper two years ago, and we tried AHB, but because the shoot-through problem on the mass production, so we changed to flyback. and based on this paper, we design QR mode flyback with SR for mass production. Thanks a lot. so do you have any other paper for it.
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2004-03-08 14:32
@arthur.deng
thanksalotThanks,Ireadthispapertwoyearsago,andwetriedAHB,butbecausetheshoot-throughproblemonthemassproduction,sowechangedtoflyback.andbasedonthispaper,wedesignQRmodeflybackwithSRformassproduction.Thanksalot.sodoyouhaveanyotherpaperforit.
关于直通
我想移项全桥也有这个问题,不过现在已经大量应用.而AHB也有产品,说明是可以解决的.还有见过一个用半桥高频逆变的电源,频率高达500K.
我这里有AHB文章,不过都是理论性的,没有实际电路.
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walkerman68
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2004-03-08 14:34
@sometimes
关于直通我想移项全桥也有这个问题,不过现在已经大量应用.而AHB也有产品,说明是可以解决的.还有见过一个用半桥高频逆变的电源,频率高达500K.我这里有AHB文章,不过都是理论性的,没有实际电路.
想问一下用什么IC控制?
想做一个试验,AHB的IC有哪些?
谢谢!
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2004-03-08 14:55
@walkerman68
想问一下用什么IC控制?想做一个试验,AHB的IC有哪些?谢谢!
3845啊
3845+RS触发器+RCDdelay
或者3845+3714
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walkerman68
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2004-03-08 15:38
@sometimes
3845啊3845+RS触发器+RCDdelay或者3845+3714
先谢谢啦!
我菜鸟,请说详细一点或给个资料.
另外3714是哪一家的IC?
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2004-03-08 18:26
@walkerman68
先谢谢啦!我菜鸟,请说详细一点或给个资料.另外3714是哪一家的IC?
uc3714
TI的,没什么资料给你的
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teon
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2004-03-09 10:44
@walkerman68
先谢谢啦!我菜鸟,请说详细一点或给个资料.另外3714是哪一家的IC?
AHB可实现软开关,可惜成本上升!
.
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arthur.deng
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2004-03-09 13:43
@sometimes
关于直通我想移项全桥也有这个问题,不过现在已经大量应用.而AHB也有产品,说明是可以解决的.还有见过一个用半桥高频逆变的电源,频率高达500K.我这里有AHB文章,不过都是理论性的,没有实际电路.
Could you pass to me
Good, I need these paper, would you like to pass to me. Arthur_Deng@apitech.com.tw or arthur01@sohu.com.  Thanks and best regard.
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szrg
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2004-03-09 14:17
@arthur.deng
shoot-throughItismeansthatthetwoMOSisturnonatthesametime.
thanks!
thanks a lot!
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mypower
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2004-03-10 13:49
@arthur.deng
thanksalotThanks,Ireadthispapertwoyearsago,andwetriedAHB,butbecausetheshoot-throughproblemonthemassproduction,sowechangedtoflyback.andbasedonthispaper,wedesignQRmodeflybackwithSRformassproduction.Thanksalot.sodoyouhaveanyotherpaperforit.
could you give me these?
thanks

power000@126.com
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bullwd
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2004-03-10 15:45
so so
AHB seems to be attractive for its concise half bridge topology and ZVS capabilty and smaller output filters. but in fact it is not so good because of the following questions:
1. worst soft switching condition when low duty cycle
2.thermal dissipation problem when low duty cycle.
3.nonlinear output voltage gain via duty cycle.
4. bias magnetizing current in the transformer
5. worse dynamic performance
thus it is very difficult  to develop a product with this topology especially for the new power electronics engineer.
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scady
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2004-07-12 23:06
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非对称半桥拓扑各位好:看大家对非对称半桥有研究,我也来看看,前期作过一些非对称半桥AC/DC,感觉该拓扑优势不大,不知兰波兄是否要作项目还是技术研究,希望邦到你.
我刚接触电源不久,非对称半桥是怎么样的拓扑结构?有没具体的电路给我一份,谢谢!!
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adlsong
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2004-07-13 09:44
@bullwd
sosoAHBseemstobeattractiveforitsconcisehalfbridgetopologyandZVScapabiltyandsmalleroutputfilters.butinfactitisnotsogoodbecauseofthefollowingquestions:1.worstsoftswitchingconditionwhenlowdutycycle2.thermaldissipationproblemwhenlowdutycycle.3.nonlinearoutputvoltagegainviadutycycle.4.biasmagnetizingcurrentinthetransformer5.worsedynamicperformancethusitisverydifficult  todevelopaproductwiththistopologyespeciallyforthenewpowerelectronicsengineer.
I donot think so.
if there is the proregulator pfc, so the items above are no problem.
in fact, there have been this kind of products in some home appliance application.for example, PDP.
It is very popular.
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skysya
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2005-02-01 16:24
could you give me these?
thanks
u8806046@cc.chu.edu.tw
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power_sz
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2005-02-03 22:51
一以前下载过一篇文章.1107442261.pdf
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2006-02-22 21:13
PLS reference it, It's a type application circuit of fairchild(ML4800)1140613989.pdf
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2006-02-23 10:24
@bullwd
sosoAHBseemstobeattractiveforitsconcisehalfbridgetopologyandZVScapabiltyandsmalleroutputfilters.butinfactitisnotsogoodbecauseofthefollowingquestions:1.worstsoftswitchingconditionwhenlowdutycycle2.thermaldissipationproblemwhenlowdutycycle.3.nonlinearoutputvoltagegainviadutycycle.4.biasmagnetizingcurrentinthetransformer5.worsedynamicperformancethusitisverydifficult  todevelopaproductwiththistopologyespeciallyforthenewpowerelectronicsengineer.
高手超多.全EN看不大懂.
不过Bbullwd你老兄说的第1和2条我就不太明白了,好像大部分TP都会存在这类问题吧!不知老兄你是怎么理解这方面的,望指教!
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bagawulala
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2006-11-06 09:56
@dianyuan8888
PLSreferenceit,It'satypeapplicationcircuitoffairchild(ML4800)1140613989.pdf
Dear Dian
So great sharing!
Does it from the official datasheet? Or manual of connected product...
Please kindly share the others, thanks a lot~ ^ ^

bagawulala@yahoo.com.tw
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leow
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2007-03-02 12:00
@arthur.deng
shoot-throughItismeansthatthetwoMOSisturnonatthesametime.
shoot-through
It is means that the two MOS is turn on at the same time.



Then , what's the dead time ?
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jackgan
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2007-08-08 13:59
各位大虾,菜鸟请问
什么意思,这年头怎么大家都在
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xy_k8299
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2007-08-08 21:18
@arthur.deng
shoot-throughItismeansthatthetwoMOSisturnonatthesametime.
shoot-through是指共态导通
dead time是死区时间吧
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