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新兴市场认证!-NOM & ANCE

客户要做NOM和ANCE,没有两家机构的联络方式,郁闷啊!
代理的不要进来哆嗦啊!
欢迎有经验的过来讨论讨论!
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kinzo
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2005-12-14 20:08
告诉你的客人:我的产品有UL或者CUL就可以,这种认证不值得做
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wllvc
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2005-12-14 20:44
@kinzo
告诉你的客人:我的产品有UL或者CUL就可以,这种认证不值得做
老大,NOM是强制的!
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kinzo
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2005-12-14 20:52
@wllvc
老大,NOM是强制的!
记得ANCE的标准是等同采用UL,NOM好象也是.而且UL和ANCE有协议

那就是说:如果你有UL证书,那就可以再要求UL发你一个ANCE.
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wllvc
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2005-12-15 08:31
@kinzo
记得ANCE的标准是等同采用UL,NOM好象也是.而且UL和ANCE有协议那就是说:如果你有UL证书,那就可以再要求UL发你一个ANCE.
Below information comes from http://www.intertek-etlsemko.com:
Fast Facts: NOM Mark

>> If your product is in one of over 2,000 product categories, ranging from electronics to home appliances, entering the Mexican market, you must have evidence of compliance with NOM standards.

>> Under Mexican law the NOM certificate holder, who must be a Mexican company, is responsible for warranty, maintenance and product liability.

>> Intertek’s laboratory in Mexico is fully qualified to perform the necessary electrical safety testing for your product. We assist in obtaining an appropriate NOM Certificate from ANCE and NYCE.

NOM Mark (Norma Oficial Mexicana)
Products entering Mexico must be tested to national, mandatory NOM standards by an accredited Mexican laboratory. Testing may be conducted by a laboratory outside of Mexico only if it holds a laboratory-to-laboratory mutual recognition agreement with an accredited Mexican laboratory.

NOM certificates are non-transferable. However, a manufacturer that is a NOM holder may extend usage rights of its NOM certification to Mexican distributors, who may then obtain their own NOM certification without additional testing.

Note: NOM certificates will only be issued to Mexican manufacturers and exporters, or to manufacturers and exporters in countries with which Mexico has a free-trade agreement


Product Categories
All electrical products exported into Mexico must meet NOM requirements as well as mandatory energy efficiency requirements. These products include household refrigerators, freezers, gas heaters, cloth washers, air conditioners; small induction motors and motor operated tools; vertical and submersible water pumps; compact fluorescent lamps and wiring devices; telecom products that are data transmitters (digital, analogical, LAN or WAN systems) and those intended to be connected to the Public Telecom Network (PTN) and designed to process, receive, transmit or convert signals.

ETL SEMKO Division of Intertek conducts testing of products covered by the following standards:
>> NOM-001-SCFI-1993 "Electronic Apparatus. Electronic household appliances input by different electric power sources. Safety requirements and testing methods for type approval", based on IEC-60065
>> NOM-016-SCF1-1993 "Electronic apparatus for offices input by different electric power sources. Safety requirements and testing methods", based on IEC-60335-1
>> NOM-019-SCF1-1998 "Safety of data processing equipment", based on IEC 60950
>> NOM-003-SCFI-2000 is the mandatory NOM product safety specification for electrical products. As a specification, it does not include testing requirements, but it does call for the following standards:

>> NMX-J-521/1: Household electrical apparatus and electrical equipment, based on IEC 60335-1-1991-04
>> NMX-J-524/1: Handheld motor operated tools, based on IEC 60745-1-1998-02
>> NMX-J-508: Wiring devices, small interrupters, incandescent-type luminaries, based on IEC 60884-1 and IEC 60669-1
>> NMX-J-515: Industrial control, based on NEMA ICS

If your product(s) is not covered by these standards, ETL SEMKO has relationships with a number of accredited Mexican laboratories to conduct testing locally. In these cases, testing must be conducted in Mexico.
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wllvc
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2005-12-15 08:51
@wllvc
Belowinformationcomesfromhttp://www.intertek-etlsemko.com:FastFacts:NOMMark>>Ifyourproductisinoneofover2,000productcategories,rangingfromelectronicstohomeappliances,enteringtheMexicanmarket,youmusthaveevidenceofcompliancewithNOMstandards.>>UnderMexicanlawtheNOMcertificateholder,whomustbeaMexicancompany,isresponsibleforwarranty,maintenanceandproductliability.>>Intertek’slaboratoryinMexicoisfullyqualifiedtoperformthenecessaryelectricalsafetytestingforyourproduct.WeassistinobtaininganappropriateNOMCertificatefromANCEandNYCE.NOMMark(NormaOficialMexicana)ProductsenteringMexicomustbetestedtonational,mandatoryNOMstandardsbyanaccreditedMexicanlaboratory.TestingmaybeconductedbyalaboratoryoutsideofMexicoonlyifitholdsalaboratory-to-laboratorymutualrecognitionagreementwithanaccreditedMexicanlaboratory.NOMcertificatesarenon-transferable.However,amanufacturerthatisaNOMholdermayextendusagerightsofitsNOMcertificationtoMexicandistributors,whomaythenobtaintheirownNOMcertificationwithoutadditionaltesting.Note:NOMcertificateswillonlybeissuedtoMexicanmanufacturersandexporters,ortomanufacturersandexportersincountrieswithwhichMexicohasafree-tradeagreementProductCategoriesAllelectricalproductsexportedintoMexicomustmeetNOMrequirementsaswellasmandatoryenergyefficiencyrequirements.Theseproductsincludehouseholdrefrigerators,freezers,gasheaters,clothwashers,airconditioners;smallinductionmotorsandmotoroperatedtools;verticalandsubmersiblewaterpumps;compactfluorescentlampsandwiringdevices;telecomproductsthataredatatransmitters(digital,analogical,LANorWANsystems)andthoseintendedtobeconnectedtothePublicTelecomNetwork(PTN)anddesignedtoprocess,receive,transmitorconvertsignals.ETLSEMKODivisionofIntertekconductstestingofproductscoveredbythefollowingstandards:>>NOM-001-SCFI-1993"ElectronicApparatus.Electronichouseholdappliancesinputbydifferentelectricpowersources.Safetyrequirementsandtestingmethodsfortypeapproval",basedonIEC-60065>>NOM-016-SCF1-1993"Electronicapparatusforofficesinputbydifferentelectricpowersources.Safetyrequirementsandtestingmethods",basedonIEC-60335-1>>NOM-019-SCF1-1998"Safetyofdataprocessingequipment",basedonIEC60950>>NOM-003-SCFI-2000isthemandatoryNOMproductsafetyspecificationforelectricalproducts.Asaspecification,itdoesnotincludetestingrequirements,butitdoescallforthefollowingstandards:>>NMX-J-521/1:Householdelectricalapparatusandelectricalequipment,basedonIEC60335-1-1991-04>>NMX-J-524/1:Handheldmotoroperatedtools,basedonIEC60745-1-1998-02>>NMX-J-508:Wiringdevices,smallinterrupters,incandescent-typeluminaries,basedonIEC60884-1andIEC60669-1>>NMX-J-515:Industrialcontrol,basedonNEMAICSIfyourproduct(s)isnotcoveredbythesestandards,ETLSEMKOhasrelationshipswithanumberofaccreditedMexicanlaboratoriestoconducttestinglocally.Inthesecases,testingmustbeconductedinMexico.
百度搜搜一大堆:
墨西哥政府规定,所有电子产品的进口都必须事先向墨西哥工商部申请质量标准证书(NOM),即符合美国UL标准,方允许进口.
NOM (Normas Oficiales Mexicanas) 标志是墨西哥的强制性产品安全标志,该标志必须标示在产品包装上.墨西哥有两家认证机构可以签发 NOM Mark:
NOM NYCE: IT 类设备
NOM ANCE: 电器和类似产品 ( 如家电产品 )
特别提示:
NOM 证书通常有效期限为一年,此后每年申请更新;更新证书时,认证机构会从市场上随机抽样进行测试;
NOM 证书持有人为当地代理商,原申请人收到的是证书与报告的副本,正本由代理商保管;申请 NOM 认证需要提交西班牙文的铭牌和使用手册.
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kinzo
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2005-12-15 11:03
@wllvc
百度搜搜一大堆:墨西哥政府规定,所有电子产品的进口都必须事先向墨西哥工商部申请质量标准证书(NOM),即符合美国UL标准,方允许进口.NOM(NormasOficialesMexicanas)标志是墨西哥的强制性产品安全标志,该标志必须标示在产品包装上.墨西哥有两家认证机构可以签发NOMMark:NOMNYCE:IT类设备NOMANCE:电器和类似产品(如家电产品)特别提示:NOM证书通常有效期限为一年,此后每年申请更新;更新证书时,认证机构会从市场上随机抽样进行测试;NOM证书持有人为当地代理商,原申请人收到的是证书与报告的副本,正本由代理商保管;申请NOM认证需要提交西班牙文的铭牌和使用手册.
http://www.ul-ccic.com/newsevents/seminars/SeminarDetails.asp?HId=817&BId=1149&LId=4&pagenum=1&Sort=Date


去那里看看吧
美华真黑啊!市场推荐会居然也要收钱,而且要收1900大刀
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safetyemc
LV.4
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2005-12-18 10:06
认证机构也是代理啊,只是时间比较快一些.
做国际认证比较专业的就是ITS了,台湾ITS和广州ITS.
墨西哥NOM Mark,发证机构有两家,NYCE和ANCE.
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kinzo
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2005-12-18 14:16
@safetyemc
认证机构也是代理啊,只是时间比较快一些.做国际认证比较专业的就是ITS了,台湾ITS和广州ITS.墨西哥NOMMark,发证机构有两家,NYCE和ANCE.
我在上海ITS里面认识的人不少,不过美标的东西确实没怎么接触过.
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safetyemc
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2005-12-19 09:27
@kinzo
我在上海ITS里面认识的人不少,不过美标的东西确实没怎么接触过.
上海ITS做国际认证还可以吧,接触过.
你们莱因也不错啊.
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qdartec
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2006-02-13 13:50
@safetyemc
认证机构也是代理啊,只是时间比较快一些.做国际认证比较专业的就是ITS了,台湾ITS和广州ITS.墨西哥NOMMark,发证机构有两家,NYCE和ANCE.
我司的产品时mini-amp,它需要外置12V/300mA开关电源.我们的产品需要做:"NOM"认证吗? 我听说输入电源低于24v的产品不需要做的.
谢谢!
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angelsand
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2006-02-14 12:06
我不同意你的观点,但誓死憾卫你说话的权利.
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ginger.wei
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2006-02-22 13:38
其实在国内来说,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV, ITS他们也是找他们在墨西哥当地的分支机构去找NYCE或者ANCE去申请,你以为他们能自己找到墨西哥的去申请吗?他们的行业内部是不允许的,这样的价格是中间转了一道的,相比较其他的代理反而没有什么竞争力,所以Wllvc说代理不要罗索这话似乎太武断了,所有的环球认证,国内没有一家公司可以直接发证,全部都是代理.
还有,如果贵公司没有代理商,还是要找代理阿,你以为TUV,ITS这些机构会去帮你找代理商吗?有也是价格奇高的
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wanbozy
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2006-03-09 08:53
@ginger.wei
其实在国内来说,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV,ITS他们也是找他们在墨西哥当地的分支机构去找NYCE或者ANCE去申请,你以为他们能自己找到墨西哥的去申请吗?他们的行业内部是不允许的,这样的价格是中间转了一道的,相比较其他的代理反而没有什么竞争力,所以Wllvc说代理不要罗索这话似乎太武断了,所有的环球认证,国内没有一家公司可以直接发证,全部都是代理.还有,如果贵公司没有代理商,还是要找代理阿,你以为TUV,ITS这些机构会去帮你找代理商吗?有也是价格奇高的
没错!其实都是代理,只不过大公司的代理信誉好点而已!
但是找没名气的代理商估计还要转一道手罢!
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ginger.wei
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2006-03-09 15:30
@wanbozy
没错!其实都是代理,只不过大公司的代理信誉好点而已!但是找没名气的代理商估计还要转一道手罢!
看他是否还会再转一道手看价格就知道了,直接和国外认证机构做很简单的,你不要以为很难,那些ITS, TUV的价格往往更贵,因为他们自己还要赚一道
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wanbozy
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2006-03-10 08:25
@ginger.wei
看他是否还会再转一道手看价格就知道了,直接和国外认证机构做很简单的,你不要以为很难,那些ITS,TUV的价格往往更贵,因为他们自己还要赚一道
严重同意!我一直都尽量直接找国外的机构做认证!
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ul.ccic
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2006-03-10 11:41
@ginger.wei
其实在国内来说,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV,ITS他们也是找他们在墨西哥当地的分支机构去找NYCE或者ANCE去申请,你以为他们能自己找到墨西哥的去申请吗?他们的行业内部是不允许的,这样的价格是中间转了一道的,相比较其他的代理反而没有什么竞争力,所以Wllvc说代理不要罗索这话似乎太武断了,所有的环球认证,国内没有一家公司可以直接发证,全部都是代理.还有,如果贵公司没有代理商,还是要找代理阿,你以为TUV,ITS这些机构会去帮你找代理商吗?有也是价格奇高的
“所有的环球认证,国内没有一家公司可以直接发证,全部都是代理.”---不至于吧,ITS,TUV等都可以发证呀.UL-CCIC也可以发证呀,只不过审核都在其他lab而已啦
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ginger.wei
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2006-03-13 11:42
@ul.ccic
“所有的环球认证,国内没有一家公司可以直接发证,全部都是代理.”---不至于吧,ITS,TUV等都可以发证呀.UL-CCIC也可以发证呀,只不过审核都在其他lab而已啦
拿阿根廷来说吧!TUV可以发证当然,他发的只是TUV S-mark,在阿根廷国内的认可度哪有阿根廷自己IRAM发的S-mark认可度高,你让TUV去发IRAM的证,你去打听一下,他们会不会发?这就是很简单的道理了.再说,就算是TUV自己发的证,他们也比不过是转手到阿根廷的TUV去做,自己根本就是转手的过程没有做任何的工作,从中赚一道,大家说说这不是代理是什么?
诸如此类,他们可以发的日本的PSE也是同样的道理,大家以后可要注意了.
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